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I said, could you tell me if they told you anything in reference why they are coming?

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Now this particular point has never been published and no paper brought out any kind of conferences

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of any kind whether on radio or TV, never been published in any book.

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And by this you can catch the story whether it's true or not.

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And this guy out of a clear sky hits.

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And a man that has no education at all, he ever went to school, he's tried to now put his little kids to school.

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But I don't think himself had any education.

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And he hits it.

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Well, I said, well that's it, I can't question them more because no man on earth would know this less he made a contact with.

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Because there is a certain thing that happened in 46 prior to the visitation of flying saucers to this earthen body.

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There's been a record of them for the ages.

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Every year a certain number of scenes were taken for this or that or something else.

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Only when Canada Arndle came along that's when he named them Flying Saucers.

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And from there on, but prior to Canada Arndle something happened in this country that our military did,

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that nobody knows, that due to that particular phase of act, the flying saucers begin to increase in numbers

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and have been increasing over since.

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Nobody knows that, what that was.

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And I wouldn't have known it had it not been forced for scientists.

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One from Harvard, we got their names and I guess looked at it from there.

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Everybody said I own the restaurant, I never owned it.

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You live there, Miss Wells, the owner of the restaurant sold it when I was in Toronto.

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I own this piece of ground, yes, this is a maker.

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But there was nothing on it but the shack, you see.

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So when that restaurant was operating there, these four men come in

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and told me just where exactly what happened.

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No Harvard, one Harvard, one Yale, and let's forget where the other two professors were from.

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We said four hours and talked about it.

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Even then I didn't believe anything except that there was strange the way the thing happened,

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but just what might be the result in the end of it, nobody even speculated on it.

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But it was very strange.

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And to this day I haven't heard exactly what the outcome is a whole half been,

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but the increase of the softest is one of the outcomes,

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because from that day on they kept on increasing, and it's been increasing all the time.

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There's a lot more behind this than we realize, a lot more.

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And then on top of that you see which was a fairly well known knowledge today

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in reference to why they are observing the earth,

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not because we're doing this or that anymore, that is mine.

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But Admiral Burt, when he went to America, prior to what we know that,

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and when he came back and reported there was ice and snow up there,

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and left his camp and later when he returned he couldn't find it, see.

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There was snowed in, ice then, yet in 46 he went there,

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and he brought a report back saying that ice and snow was dark, rivers and lakes were falling,

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and vegetation here and there, he began to show his head.

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It goes to prove beyond the shadow of the doubt that there had been a shift to the earth on its axis.

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Well any shift of any planet in the system, like a solar system,

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will naturally change the ordination of relationships between two bodies.

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And if they are advances as far as we assume they are, and now we begin to realize that they are,

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they will detect that. We have instruments, they naturally would probably have better ones.

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Alright, they were detected, wouldn't have been the second place,

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because any shift of anybody in the system like that will be just like a spoke on the wheel.

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If it shifts out from its proper position it throws the wheel off balance.

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There's an adjustment, it must take place before that wheel is going to be running uneven gear.

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Well, that's the major thing they're looking for, they're observing that, the shift is still continuing.

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And even not long ago our paper Darnian San Diego carried a certain percentage of that shift,

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which I doubted is that far, because that far, we'd be noticing a lot worse conditions than we do.

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But they haven't at least said that, admitting that there's a shift continuing.

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Just how far it's going to go is hard to save.

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And the analysis on the shift, if it is true as some of the scientists are proposing the idea,

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that it's 26,000 year cycle is ending and we'll reverse the whole plan here.

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I don't know where to get it, because we have no record of only 6,000 years.

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I don't think we have, maybe we have some way, but I don't think so.

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I have never heard about it.

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Then, and actually, if we go along the lines of history, and the only place we can go to is the biblical history.

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Well, in the history there, and we take an honest flood into consideration on that base, that's the only thing we can bank on.

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Well, we do know that a firmament was heavy, what they call the overcast today.

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An hour-life evaporation has come to create clouds in there.

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Well, we do know that the cosmic ray, as science tells us today, does carry the gamma ray with it.

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The gamma ray is not healthy for any human body.

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And if you go back to that history, when that firmament, so-called burned away, as a far burned away,

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is from there on that you can trace how the span of life began to descend.

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So it shows a pretty good indication there, just what might be happening.

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If this is the same condition, it should come up on us again.

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go underwater, the other quarter that's been 70,000,000 years underwater, will come up.

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which is a firmament again, as they call it then,

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and it'd be an ice age in the extreme part of that section,

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while in the territory that remains dry, will become a tropical situation.

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would no doubt in my mind, would produce what we might call a healthy situation,

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and the gamma ray is the deadly ray that causes to go down.

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Because it would be filtered through the cloud system, which it was before.

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That's only but logic. That's only speculating on what can take place.

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And yet, most of this, as scientists that do come out along that line, seem to go all the way.

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But just when? Maybe five minutes, five hours, or five thousand years from now.

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But it is moving back down.

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Can you get a cigarette?

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Yeah, sure.

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It is, right?

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Sure, I got two.

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Is that the same, is this the same thing that Mr. Van Jessen talks about, his polar flip?

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This is, I'll be honest with you.

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I don't know what Van Jessen was talking about.

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I really don't.

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He's got a square moon and all that stuff, which doesn't make sense.

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The unfortunate part of this whole situation is that so many of those fellows are trying to

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put the thing into some occult field, which doesn't belong to really nobody.

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It belongs to the world, if it belongs to anybody.

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It's a whole world that's affected, and that's why I can't go along with any of those fellows.

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Van Tansel and of course, now this fry is, he doesn't go along with it too much, does he?

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Well, he didn't at first, but on this convention that day when he talked there, he had a tendency

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to swim their way.

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I don't know what's the score.

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I didn't, I just helped to the ground and let's stay there, that's where it belonged.

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Although I could have got into the other field because I have been confronted with a man,

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might be called a top sman, of the Bishop of Canterbury right here in that chair.

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Come down here to find out what the relationships are in reference to religion.

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That's the major idea.

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I've been confronted on the same grounds with the Catholics.

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I've been confronted on the same grounds with the Christ Council of Churches.

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So they are interested, see, and they think it's urgent.

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They really do, at least what they have said.

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And I do know, regardless how much fun we try to make out of the deal, there is no fun in it.

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It's more serious than we realize.

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Because we can trace it back a little bit, those things have happened before.

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that we have already discovered between 1 to 360 what we call stars commonly.

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that there must be duplicates of our earth somewhere out there.

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With the same climate, same mineral, same everything. He tells you that much.

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telling you a point like again, that they're all made up,

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apparently the same type of mineral that Mother Earth has.

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If we take counter-stream to consideration, which we must, I do acknowledge God.

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I believe there's a Supreme Being who governs the whole thing.

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No man can deny that because he's subject onto some powers all the time.

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Okay, so we acknowledge that part.

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But we also can go back and say that this earth has its beginning sometime too,

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as it's going to have its ending, as any of the form has.

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So all we can do is speculate on, we weren't here to see it when it happened.

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Well, we have a pretty good idea as how it might have happened.

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And that might, so long as it's logical and sensible, it can prove it's fine to certain extent.

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We do know that space is full of space debris.

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Particles of dust are flying through space constantly.

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We could not take a ship out from here 25,000 miles per hour to the moon without the incentive paper.

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We know that.

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All right, those particles are minute, cannot be seen by a naked eye.

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Yet sometimes, somewhere, they must in some way or another, associate with one another.

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Once two particles associate with one another, what happens?

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They have all taken on a different law by weight.

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They would begin, they become the masters of all singlers out there,

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and begin to attract onto themselves, just like a one flick of snow that has fallen and started rolling.

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the start rolling over the snow is followed by the time it got to a block or two, it would be a massive ball.

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Each time it gets bigger, the compression for a sinner would be greater.

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See? All right.

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You might visualize it the same way in making it here.

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Well, in those minute particles must have been everything.

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Like we say, there must have been a potential or a seed for a plate of grass to later be grown out of that body.

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There were, and things like that must have been there in a minute form, or they couldn't have now grown, chemically speaking.

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combustion to compression must take place in the center of the earth.

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softest elements will begin to melt first under the lightest heat,

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and those are gold and silver and stuff like that.

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condensation was taken in some degree that water formation began to take place,

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and the other gases escaped through the pores of this eye-collar ball-headed earth.

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the greater the boiling particles going on there, and the second place within the center of the earth,

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the greater amount of it, through its revolving, began to evaporate into space,

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which finally created the clouds that did not exist before.

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So it finally was not washed up there, it finally had to come back and fall back first rain.

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the vegetarian was a big monster that he just turns up on tons of vegetation per day.

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You have to do that, and in order to keep the atmosphere clear from poison.

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That's the only way I can see this whole thing has happened.

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And it happened the same way on another planet.

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Then we take our earth and consider, see what it has reproduced.

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and isolate it from the rest of space.

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Anything that's born within that system then must be born of the same elements.

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Then it should reproduce the like of that it did.

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Of that is only minor one in comparison to the others.

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The society set up in a situation in there,

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sure we have such conditions in this world.

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We have conditions in this world, we find that some part of the world's civilization

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has learned certain things and are top-centered.

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While another one is doing something else in their top-centered.

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We have learned, what we have learned,

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it became the top-centered in the world, mechanically and advanced

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beyond all nations of the world.

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You might say, lay that out into a system of planets the same way.

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So there'd be some advanced set of us, some maybe not as far as us.

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We're not the poorest, but we're not the best either.

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See, you gotta look at the picture straight.

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And we ourselves are actually planning to go to the planet Mars or Venus.

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And I am sure that we are blessed without a war for a while,

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say for the next ten years, that we will do it.

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Oh, I'm from a good institute.

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Yeah, well, we will do it. We're almost on top of it now.

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And the only thing we'll have to change is about what we talk to some individuals

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from the conveyor that have much on the drawing board and that line already.

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and go back to new line altogether.

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Because in air dynamics, we work on stresses, all sorts of things like that.

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And we have to build our ships accordingly.

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All right? But in nature, as far as the Earth is concerned, there is no such a thing.

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And I have found out that these people that operate these ships,

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and they're people like ourselves, whether people do it or not,

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eventually some of these days they're all going to see them.

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All right? Our people that have asked this question at one time, as we should have asked,

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well, the Earth is revolving 18.5 miles per second, steadily.

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We don't even know we're moving.

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What makes this Earth move on its orbit?

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and then orbit up 365 days in the meantime, wobble stage.

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Three stages. And it's operating in three stages.

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Yet we know nothing about it. We're living right on it.

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In other words, we're really writing the spaceship.

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That's so-called nature mail.

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See, at 18.5 miles per second, we're writing that.

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And don't know nothing about it. So, oh, there's your clue.

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They have asked that question.

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No jet engine like we say it today? No wings on it? What makes it move?

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This started investigating.

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Maybe we can build a satellite, what we call it today, a satellite,

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that'll operate the same way only man's made.

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And they have substituted that.

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So there's really no mystery involved.

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When they make those terms, the Earth makes certain terms too.

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We don't know nothing about it. Why?

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If the Earth was to stop this very moment,

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I doubt what any one of us would know what happened.

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Because the air, what we call the atmosphere,

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it began just that fast. It began just that fast.

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And we died in the lack of air.

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And if it continued to stay standing still,

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then the energy within the Earth itself would exert itself to stop breaking it up.

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Just like a pilot may go up so high without a pressurized ship.

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And lighter air, he hasn't got the support for his body from the outside in the morning,

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begins to expand. The same idea.

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Okay. So what they have really learned is this.

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They utilize this magnetic force as a call to magnetic force in our early days,

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who is non-counter-esthetic, electricity producing our lightning.

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We must admit that when there's a flash of lightning for two, three hours,

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go without like it does in California sometime, that seemed last year very remarkably,

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that only all the power plants hooked together would only produce one flash like that

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and that would be the end of the power.

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Yet here it goes on for hours. There's plenty of it there.

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Okay. They realize that. They hope down to that power.

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So they have power where they want to go. They have access partly to this point.

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They only utilize 10% for propulsion. 90% they must dissipate.

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What do they do? They dissipate it from the skin of the ship.

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Say what we call the skin of the ship, the surface.

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All particles in space are negative to space. Space is possible.

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So all particles that would otherwise hit that ship or the body of the ship

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are repelled by the negative radiation from the skin of the ship.

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It's a negative or a positive negative. So they never touch anything, even a meteorite,

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because what they have actually produced through this dissipation of this excess power

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is produced in an atmosphere around themselves, own gravitational field.

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In a wavelet system like you drop a table in a still pool of water

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and you see a wavelet after a wavelet going up, you're going to show yourself one thing.

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If you can measure correctly, you will find that your ship is pressurized according to our law

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at 14.7 inside, that the first wavelet radiating from the skin of the ship is also 14.7.

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It's from there on, she begins to descend.

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And when they see trails of these things and see sometimes sparks flying behind,

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it's not coming from the ship. Maybe that radiation is extending 50 miles,

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200, 250 miles away from the body of the ship.

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In its there, where the fringe of it is, that comes in contact with the fringe of space,

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or space itself, or our own, see? And that's where the friction is set up.

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So the ship is right in cobble, right on through. They don't even know when to make a turn.

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I use this illustration and explanation. You take eight, everybody knows what an eight is like.

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All right? The yolk of an eight is the solid part of that egg.

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The view of the heart of a white of an egg is just like air with the around the earth.

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All right? The shell of the egg is the fringe of the egg, which is the crust.

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If we were to put a man on the yolk of an egg, he is submerged in the white of an egg, is he not?

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Then we throw him, throw the whole world. Would he know he'd be thrown? No.

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Because the fringe, the friction and everything would be on the extreme part of the egg,

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which is the shell of the egg, then inside of the egg wouldn't know what they're talking about.

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Well, just not just what exactly they done, which the earth is doing every day.

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You see? What, what, oh, this, this idea, the thing is that I've always wanted to buy on this is the, the shape of these, these saucers.

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Why the saucer shape? What, what do they, you see? They don't have to make a turn.

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In other words, their, their ball type landing gears, what they call them, what they've been called,

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are only landing gears in where they are actually condensers, but condensing static electricity.

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And static electricity we already know in the military setup, that once you load a ball, how a ball is static electricity,

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the darn things start to open up. They, alright. So they're condensers.

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The ship, they can cut one off or the other. See? Whichever that they cut off, that's the way the ship is going to go.

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They don't have to make a turn as we do, with an R, automobile, or R ships.

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They just swing to you, they go this way, that way, this way, that way.

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It doesn't make no difference. To us it looks like they make right angle turns, but they don't.

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They really don't. It is very funny. You see, Captain Mantell got caught.

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He would never got hurt. Had this ship been a fuselage alone without the wings.

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Because you like taking two piles of magnets, I think you've got some magnets here.

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I'm sure you do. Yeah. And two piles of magnets. They're for the like.

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So they attract you like that. That's what would have happened.

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But having a wing, you would have caught this way, start to listen to that wing.

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You got caught in this power that was radiating, protecting the major ship, this radiation they're all talking about,

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repelling force. He got pulled in by the wing and started twisting.

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Well, once the wing got caught, the whole thing started breaking up.

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That's what that trouble was. Otherwise, we had a fuselage or a cigar shaped ship or anything like that.

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It would have just come together like the two piles do and not know what would have happened.

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Because they can do that very easily. They really, you might say, didn't mean to harm nobody.

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He just didn't know. And he got in too close like we used to hit supersonic walls before we know how to penetrate them.

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It wasn't our supersonic wall that wanted to kill us. We just didn't know what it meant. We didn't see it.

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And that's what happened then. But you see, the thing is running in parallel lines all the time.

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Anything that comes in this way, towards center, especially on a ship, because the center part is positive.

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You see, our magnets, if you take your magnets, they will radiate from the ends, towards center.

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So I'm all the way around. Well, I always even questioned this now.

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I've been given a question since I've learned how they do things. And that is, they say that our earth, north-bold, south-bold.

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I wonder if there is one such a thing. Because one would be negative and the other would be positive.

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Wouldn't that be true? According to our magnetic law. Yet, I say the center of the earth is positive.

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So both ends must be negative, instead of one positive and negative. Because the forces work in this way.

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I said to you now. But here's the point. I don't know if you got into the psychic field thing or not.

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No, no, I never hand. Listen to some of it. Yeah, I've listened to some of it.

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Well, that's the main argument. Let us get down to common sense. We don't want to get fooled.

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And I think our government deserves all the true information of a clear-cut nature that is possible to begin.

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Because the better we are, I informed the better we are, if there is anything in my comment.

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And that is, we must admit that a human being is a strange general. He is made up of every element known on earth, as well as in space.

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Because he breathes it. Therefore, he would automatically be a potential for feeling or vibrations or frequencies that alert him to certain conditions

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from the lowest stage of minimal action to the highest stage of intelligence.

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Would that be? All right now. That would then call for quite a study of a one-cell.

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To be able to tell, definitely, is from what angle he's getting this information. From what source.

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That we have not done. Then you cannot, as much as you would like, to support everybody. You just can't do it.

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So long as you know that the individual has not been so alerted, that he is a potential for such a case.

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Well, the only thing is that, I read Williams' book, I read parts of it, and the only thing is that I didn't, truly didn't like in the book,

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was that this is about the Ouija board. That's it. That's another one. I have always hated, although I can say with pride today,

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that at the convention, Lady Baye Berry Stone came up and she says,

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to me George, we've been playing around with the Ouija board. I says, forget it. Drop it. You can go even nuts on it.

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I said it right through her. Drop it. You've got to learn things more, know more about things before you can even start tackling it.

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I'm not denying it. Every person has the right of their own. I'm not taking any right from the orientation.

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But you don't know enough about it. Let her alone. You can get much confusion and get yourself a domestic you won't know where you're at.

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Dr. Williams stood right by me and he says, yes. Drop it. He says, if I had to listen to George, I wouldn't have gotten in the messy.

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I now realize what he's trying to tell me. Nobody tries to listen to you. You think that you're trying to dominate them or something else.

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You try to correct it. Surely you're trying to earn $25 for a lesson or rather than paying for it and trying to learn.

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But you try to give them some information for their good without cost and they think you're trying to dominate them or something.

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That's a big problem. So you see, therefore, a person has got to be very careful to acknowledge anything.

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It costs for a thorough investigation on the whole thing from angle. If it can get down to the brass core, you at least should have some logical feel in which the thing will explain itself.

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If it can do that, then the thing is no good.

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Well, now you say that I didn't read Williamson's book too carefully, I say, but the first man that picked him up was a ham radio operator.

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Wasn't it? Williamson went to, wasn't that his story?

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No, no, no. The way I have been informed was a man in a Santa Fe ticket office that transmits your messages on your ticket to the next station as the trains go by and so forth.

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It was in there that is supposed to have happened, but I'm excited.

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I see.

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Well, now Williamson has tied up with this person from Detroit, I believe.

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Do you mean Harry Midey?

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No.

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Oh, Miller?

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No.

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Well, I've heard Miller that day. Now, he had some good sound logic. Let me put it that way.

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Logic that could work in very nicely.

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Well, when a man comes out and says there's 3,500 Martians ships, he will save humanity, I say to him and anybody else, that's a lot of the loamy.

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Well, I talked to Miller out there at the convention for quite a while. He's the only one I talked to actually, very long.

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And of course, they're working on this business now, this infrared light beam.

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That's right. I've seen that they had those two little gadgets up there.

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What that is, I don't know. That's an invention or discovery, or whatever you may want to call it, of John Otto.

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In some way or another, I don't know anything about it, but John Otto picked it up on some great magazine at one time published in the Wismannam.

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That part, I don't know whether it's true or not. That's what I have heard.

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It's not this infrared machine. I don't know how it works, but there is also supposed to be or anything as my own analysis.

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If the thing was that good, our government would be long using it.

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Because we have technicians, I'll tell you boys something, and guided missile men, I'm not mentioning their names.

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I never mention names of men in any government beam.

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The only time I mention names to you, when I wrote you into pictures when you were at the base, by Mr. Thompson, he told me to use them.

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But otherwise, I don't mention names at all.

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But I had four guided missile men of California that interviewed me on the question of this nature.

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How come these spaceships can go through an atomic cloud where I have to explosion and not be affected?

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How would I know? Well, we know you know.

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Well, I said the only way a man would know is to be in one of those ships.

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I don't know just what takes place. Do you mean that I've been in the ship and I should know?

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We don't know. They wouldn't commit themselves. Why do they have the other?

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Well, then I told them just what the result is.

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I mean, it was good. It's good for defense. So from there on, I won't go into the cloud.

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And that's good for defense. Then they asked me, if I couldn't become a consultant to the guided missile job, I said, no mechanic.

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I don't know any of the mechanics. I couldn't construct anything.

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I did play around with radio's only first-class crystal sets. Well, that's all.

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And, well, you don't need to be a mechanic.

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We've got men that can do anything that you tell them.

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So I do know that we have men that can do most anything. See?

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We've got men that can do anything that you tell them. All we do is want your ideas.

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I said, that calls for wages, doesn't it, you know?

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I don't want to become a wage burner from the government side because if I did, I couldn't be talking like I'm talking now.

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I said, I know that. I put in quite a bit of time and a service myself. I know how it works.

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So I said, I won't get tangled up there, but I'll give any information that the government wants free without charge.

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That's right. But I do know, as they told me, that anything that we might conceive mentally that sounds logical can be done.

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We have mechanics to be able to do it. So from that angle, I would say, if this infrared machine that they have got is as good as all of that, then we'd have a better one.

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You see, I'm not condemning this situation.

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I'm only analyzing to see the inferiority that might be in there or something that might not be up to par.

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I give them a benefit of doubt as far as it'll go, but you just can't go to work and build upon something that really is nothing.

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You've got to handle it because this, as I said, is too big a thing and we can learn much from it ourselves.

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And as I say, once we learn the method of operation, and we do know that our oil is going to run out something in other types of things, we'll have to resort to something.

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We do know that man is always seeking new outlets, new adventure and all of that.

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And today he set himself even beyond this answer question that he eventually will be traveling space and visiting other planets.

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And to do that, we have to find a solution because while we may sacrifice few men in our trials, we can't keep on sacrificing all men all the time.

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We have to find a solution by which it'll be safe.

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Well, what, on this item, two questions I picked up here while you were talking.

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One was, when we go to these other planets, say we go to Mars, for example, Venus, what's our reception going to be there?

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I mean, what's our reception is going to be good?

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Well, back, we don't have a lot of that.

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Well, why have these people actually landed, physically landed here?

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Well, not try to colonize, let's say, but try to go out and, well, what would we do if we, well, I mean, they've done this.

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I mean, this is amazing.

417
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000
I'll make an answer to my own question.

418
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:37,000
But the thing that we do, if we go to Mars, we're going to pick up, probably pick up samples of the air and samples of the ground and various things like that.

419
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
I would guess, I would guess.

420
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Well, I've been in front of the Earth, I've done that.

421
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000
I have done that, I see.

422
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,000
In Canada, when I was in Canada, that last year, this, the information was received.

423
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,000
First, I received the information by mail before I left there, for Canada.

424
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
So I didn't mention these men's names either.

425
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,000
One man was doing a war, Toth, Man and the Air Force.

426
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000
And the other two were businessmen.

427
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,000
And they had a little plot or land, acreage, and the weekends they'd go out and play around.

428
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000
That's late, but there was a decision.

429
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,000
There was a lake not far from there, and this happened on the lake.

430
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,000
And the ship come down and the people talk to these men.

431
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,000
The other fellow, one businessman there, on the other hand, was having this little tractor as he puts it.

432
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Had a little disk and he was playing around, cutting around, he was getting back, he wanted to finish his piece.

433
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,000
And he saw this incoming and he said, but he had paid attention to his tractor died.

434
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Shut it off for him that way.

435
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000
And finally, he'd come down and talk to him.

436
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Well, in each case, they picked up soil, leaves, and water.

437
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000
And things like that.

438
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
The same thing that you just got to say, and we would do.

439
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
They've done that same thing.

440
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:54,000
And of course, after the information amount, when I was lecturing there at Nancy Hall and Toronto,

441
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
there were a lot of people there.

442
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000
The place was lowered.

443
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:05,000
They tell me I was about to use the word loaded because if I go to England and they say loaded, they think you're drunk.

444
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:12,000
Well, anyway, so just as I got through lecturing and already through the question period,

445
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,000
about ready to break up, there was a lady there that had me on a radio station, too.

446
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000
A very nice person.

447
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000
And three men come up on the stage also.

448
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,000
And they come up to me on the show and he says, I'm so and so and so and so.

449
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,000
They finally got to the point that they didn't give a dime,

450
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
whether they probably knew or they didn't.

451
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
They got out to meet themselves.

452
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000
No one to the public.

453
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
There were ones I was talking about that happened in Canada.

454
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000
This lady took him up right away.

455
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Next day, I guess after I left, they had him on the radio.

456
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:47,000
But there was one, there's a big businessman, got several jewelry, big jewelry stores.

457
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,000
He got his in a hardware business, also with a number of stores.

458
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:58,000
And this man of the Air Force that was in the end of the Air Force in Canada doing the war.

459
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,000
So they were men that had to be careful as to what they were going to say or hurt their business.

460
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Yet after they'd come out that body, come right out, and they repeated the same thing.

461
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000
They said, yes, they could come slower than this man.

462
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000
They were very friendly.

463
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,000
There was no armament on the ships of any kind or anything like that.

464
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Well, that's another question now, and I was listening to a hard guy forgot what the question was.

465
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:26,000
But, well, you were down in Mexico, and you talked to this one man that had also contact with you.

466
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Oh, yes, he spent a whole night with two spacemen.

467
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000
And here's another thing.

468
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
It was the first time of this type.

469
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000
The fellow did have a helmet.

470
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Well, they opened it.

471
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
First one man preferring them than the other.

472
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Then they had the helmet.

473
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
But he carried it on his arm like this.

474
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
He didn't have it on his head while it formed the man.

475
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Any time he put it on his head, which like our pilots would probably do the same thing,

476
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,000
because it had a little things on the side that he noticed, and a little small antenna on the helmet,

477
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000
which must have been a concussion, a helmet, that's all.

478
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Well, flight, while in flight, had an armament head to come in to be in contact with mothership or whoever he was in contact with.

479
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000
But not far on the ground.

480
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,000
There's another thing that was different than any place else that was told there, right,

481
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,000
to the government officials, because he was brought in there, and a belt.

482
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Now, the man had a belt too, but I'd never seen anything go in the center at the time.

483
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Maybe he had. I'd never seen the chin.

484
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,000
But this fellow had his belt, and maybe that's when they used it.

485
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000
They're almost identical like this.

486
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:35,000
And what really happened, there was a lot of water there, and it was muddy, slushy.

487
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,000
So they walked to the ship, in him following.

488
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:45,000
He was thinking, and mud up to his ankles and bob, well, they wanted, but the belt was growing.

489
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,000
In other words, acted as a levitator, see?

490
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000
And that's what he thought it did, because he didn't have it, so he sung.

491
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,000
But they did, and when they got out, they asked him to go on the ship, he was frightened.

492
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000
He thought it was family. You didn't know what might happen to him.

493
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,000
But when they got on the flange of the ship, see, the flange was down, at the crown,

494
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000
before they get into the cabin, the cabin is translucent and transparent.

495
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:13,000
That's why it gives off all those different colors, because inside the ship, they have not much grass, no beetle work.

496
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:19,000
All that in the color system, the various exact parts, one, different operations,

497
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,000
and then different colors go on, and actually being translucent or transparent,

498
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,000
dome will reflect that color, and that's where you get your changes of color.

499
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
So he saw all of that in there.

500
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,000
And when they stepped up on this flange to get into the ship, he noticed that there was a drop of mother ending

501
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,000
and debris left at all on the flange, and the flange was as shiny as a mirror.

502
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,000
So this belt here must have been used for just walking right over the mother's study armament.

503
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000
That was the artist's father, this whole thing there.

504
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:58,000
I suppose you've been asked this question 20,000 times in the past, but why doesn't somebody bring back something?

505
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000
I have a letter right here. I have a piece of metal.

506
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,000
It's not metal, it's a slack.

507
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000
I walked up to the ship because I had other contacts.

508
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,000
I walked up to the ship and I was very much surprised because on the first contact, it's a mental impression,

509
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,000
because they have no telephone system to tell you where you want to see.

510
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,000
So they establish a mental communion with you because every human being has a different frequency.

511
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
There's no two or like.

512
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,000
So how do you get it from a person? You know it's coming from the megan because it's identical in the way it alerts you.

513
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,000
So on the second contact, I got out of the ship there, he started talking English.

514
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,000
I was very much disturbed because he would talk English to me in the beginning.

515
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000
So I thought, well, I don't know what this trick is.

516
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
So I can say two words in Polish.

517
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Polish from the father's side and size up to each.

518
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000
Right back to Polish.

519
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,000
This guy, this boy down here in Mexico, was talking to his Spanish.

520
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,000
He was playing around with something and he was smelling something.

521
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,000
He had a little kusabel and it was hot, you could see it was hot and all that.

522
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
He threw some of the slack down.

523
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000
So I picked it up and put some nankies.

524
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
It was pretty warm, not hot enough to burn, but warm.

525
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,000
I put him in a nankie and started sticking in my coat pocket.

526
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
He said to me, what are you going to do with that?

527
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
I said, well, it's the mineral of the earth, planet, isn't it?

528
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Whatever you were doing, yes, but it's no different than your earth.

529
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000
The composition is the same.

530
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000
The only difference that they have, there's any difference at all.

531
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,000
There's the different valoys, but the minerals will be the same.

532
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000
I said, they laugh at you.

533
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
But I said, I'll take it anyway.

534
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,000
So I brought some. Very little of it, but I brought some.

535
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000
One with me.

536
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
So when Desmond Leslie was here, I gave him a little piece.

537
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000
Oh, about this piece this size.

538
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
To take what?

539
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Well, he had it already glassed by the Pope.

540
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,000
He was in Rome, but at least what he writes to me.

541
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
But anyway, but here I get some letter.

542
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Since I was in Mexico, I get some letter down here

543
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000
that he had in Atlanta, by the British military.

544
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000
And they have, and it tells them what it is.

545
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,000
And there's some elements in there that are unknown to this world.

546
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Do you want to get that letter?

547
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Every time I see it.

548
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000
And you're not going to talk?

549
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
No, I'll tell you what I'll do.

550
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000
One thing I learned.

551
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Meanwhile, the air secretary gave a little fragment to their talk for specialists.

552
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Without telling them what it was, a very long analytical report has now been made.

553
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000
It is marked restricted.

554
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,000
But I have obtained a clearance to send you a copy, which I shall have made next time my secretary comes in.

555
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Briefly so, the fragment is namely commercial aluminum with traces of iron and of elements.

556
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,000
It was used at around 1000 degrees centigrade and has been circuit on it, no doubt,

557
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
through contact with the fence and hop.

558
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:58,000
But there are tiny grains of some unknown substance which so far has not been analyzable.

559
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,000
They consider that it could not have been a moving part,

560
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:08,000
as it is not a strong enough metal for anything requiring stress, tension, or friction.

561
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000
That's how fun it is to see for the interest of it.

562
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Well, I have received some in there.

563
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Now, our scientists say, from a spectrum analysis of the different planets and the atmosphere of the different planets,

564
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:27,000
that, well, I can't keep it straight, but one of them has a carbon dioxide.

565
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Yeah, Venus, both of them have that.

566
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Well, I'll tell you, we reason along their lines.

567
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000
We're not going to hurt them or we're not going to try to discredit them.

568
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
There's reason along their lines.

569
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Spectrum is a wonderful thing, wonderful invention.

570
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,000
You can put it on a piece right here and actually know the weakness of your iron

571
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
or anything that you might want to analyze.

572
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
That's very good.

573
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,000
But since astronomers also admit that space is full of called space debris,

574
00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:00,000
meteorites, particles of dust, as we stated before, and gas pockets of all sorts,

575
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,000
let us then say there's 60 million miles distance between us and planet Venus.

576
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,000
We're going to register all of that before we hit the target.

577
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Since we don't know what percentages of interference there is between us and that body,

578
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000
how are we going to get the correct answer?

579
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,000
I'll teach you.

580
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000
You see?

581
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,000
So therefore, what they say, like the monoxide gas on Venus,

582
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
could have registered anywhere in between,

583
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000
and being a layer there all the time, anytime they try it,

584
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000
no matter how many times they get the same answer.

585
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,000
We will not know the truth until we have, and I think we are working along that line,

586
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:46,000
invent what I call an electronic stick that can go out foot by foot into outer space

587
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:53,000
and register each foot separately and then register all of that, then hit the target,

588
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000
then deduct all the interference that's been registered prior to the hit in the target,

589
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,000
and we have exact percentages, and then we can actually know what's on the planet.

590
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:09,000
So that's the only answer we have, and then we're working along that line,

591
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:15,000
and I think, according to my information from France, I have a paper on it in French,

592
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000
and also a letter.

593
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,000
There's an instrument in France going into operation this month, coming month,

594
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,000
it's a different instrument than what we have down here, like the 200-inch.

595
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,000
It's electronic type. They don't say what it actually is, right,

596
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,000
but it costs one tenth of what this one costs,

597
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:39,000
and actually, as they are speculating on it, the moment that will give us the answer

598
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:45,000
on the conditions of each planet, that will give us the answer on the forest, water,

599
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000
and everything else upon the planet, or bodies that we might hit,

600
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,000
as well, they say, in the course of two years, if it works out that they are planning,

601
00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:00,000
that if there was a show going on on planet Venus, they could transmit it to our present TV set.

602
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,000
That's how good the instrument is supposed to be, or speculating on it to be.

603
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
That will be something.

604
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,000
But you see, our instruments are good so far as they go,

605
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:18,000
but we do know that even the 100-inch telescope down here only goes out one billion light-years,

606
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,000
and one billion light-years in the universe that has no beginning or an ending is really nothing on it.

607
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Not really.

608
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,000
That's right.

609
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,000
That's right.

610
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Because, like people say, well, it must be in some place.

611
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Well, let us say there was a man.

612
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,000
There was something supporting that end, which was greater than the end of cell.

613
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,000
And so it goes on that way. You could argue that for not the doomsday.

614
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000
And I think the word eternity expresses it very well.

615
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000
So you see, that's where our astronomy is today.

616
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,000
See, for instance, we sometimes ignore, and this is an unfortunate part,

617
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:56,000
we ignore our people that hadn't had much education,

618
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:01,000
excluded totally from any important job.

619
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,000
I'm going to give you something that I happen to hit some astronomers on,

620
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,000
and then need to do it in the harming them, or anything, but I just have to question them.

621
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,000
And as our gentleman, the 48-inch telescope, or Mount Paloma down here,

622
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:21,000
is endeavoring to make an atlas of the sky, something that had never been done for the Geographic Society.

623
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,000
And it's been in operation for quite some time, and it's not getting very far.

624
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,000
And yet, this is the finest instrument ever made.

625
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,000
But supposing that a man come to you, there were four of them,

626
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,000
supposing a man come to you and lay down a map to come there, the atlas of the sky.

627
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,000
What would you say? We'd say he was a genius.

628
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,000
I says, but in the end, you'd ask him, why he got his education, wouldn't you?

629
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
Yes, we would do that.

630
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Supposing he told you he could write his own name.

631
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Well, would you say then?

632
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Well, there would be ways, now, don't we? Just throw the map in the wastebasket.

633
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000
I said, that's what I thought you would say.

634
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,000
I said, let me say something without any harm,

635
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,000
according to your present statement that you have made,

636
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
you have admitted right here that you are, as a science,

637
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,000
founded on what is today, in modern times, termed colossal ignorance.

638
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,000
What do you mean by that, why you all spoke up?

639
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
I says, just a minute.

640
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,000
Isn't astronomy founded on the Zoliac?

641
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Ancient Zoliac?

642
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Yes, it is.

643
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000
It's founded on ancient Zoliac.

644
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Who constructed the ancient Zoliac, according to history?

645
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,000
It was a bunch of sheep herders,

646
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,000
living by night, watching the sheep, having nothing to do,

647
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,000
they had no education, the schooling system was unknown in those days,

648
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
and the way it is to date.

649
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:50,000
But they observed the sky so well that they marked out its constellations, and so forth,

650
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,000
and of course, anybody can make a mark like a circle in the cross, and name it,

651
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000
if they know what they're doing.

652
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,000
Because I can take a child, three years old, put him in a sandpile, or a younger,

653
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,000
he would too make all sorts of figures with his finger,

654
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,000
and if he wanted to name them for symbology, for symbioticness,

655
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,000
he could do it, and that's what these fellows done, that's the best they could do.

656
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,000
Yet, at this date, you have not disproved them from your founded on them.

657
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,000
Yet, in modern times, because you got so far ahead of the natural laws,

658
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
you would condemn a man because he had no education,

659
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,000
and it would be impossible for him to get something like that.

660
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Yet, on the first hand, you admit it.

661
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000
You were the genius.

662
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,000
I said, let's get down, I said, to basis of some common sense,

663
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,000
and work from a common sense angle, and we make it some more.

664
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000
I said, do them that.

665
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,000
They say a word to that.

666
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
And that's about the situation.

667
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Just like I say, I really tell you to go through it,

668
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:51,000
my heart is aching for a lot of the scientists in the United States that are good men,

669
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,000
good men, the heart and soul of the United States is then their being.

670
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000
All right, and then the states.

671
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:04,000
Okay, yet I tell you, we important foreign scientists,

672
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,000
give the right of their works, and they become ritual gods from God's science,

673
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,000
while our science are ignored.

674
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Yeah, let me ask you this question,

675
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,000
and I'll tell you a bunch of reports from San Francisco,

676
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,000
who built up the United States to the greatness that it is today,

677
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,000
was our own men, our own fulfillment.

678
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Indiepidance are outstanding that we were desires, truthful, forward going peoples,

679
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,000
because we have gone beyond all the rest of the world.

680
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Now if these foreign scientists are smart, why didn't they go beyond us?

681
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,000
Then if I ignore our own, and they have been ignored.

682
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Foreign names.

683
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
Yeah, that's unfortunately the truth.

684
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,000
A foreign name in science seems to me an awful lot to a lot of people,

685
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,000
I don't exactly...

686
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:56,000
I just like some wealthy lady who varies a baron or a baroness,

687
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,000
there's something like that right away something else.

688
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,000
You see, that's our unfortunate side, I think.

689
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,000
I might say right here too, that as far as space platform is concerned,

690
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000
well, there's a man, I got the magazine someplace,

691
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,000
I can give you his name, he's a scientist, German scientist,

692
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
that works under von Braun and others,

693
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:24,000
and when Kali's magazine published the first article on space platform,

694
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000
he didn't find it the second one.

695
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:32,000
I read him both, I didn't like it, I don't like it today, because of this.

696
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,000
At that time, it cost four billion dollars, while later on this game too,

697
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,000
we could build a spaceship with less money than that,

698
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,000
and go to the real space platform, which would be the moon.

699
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,000
So this fellow was in debt,

700
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,000
with the magazine, put his name on the front cover and all,

701
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,000
to ask my opinion, so I hid it,

702
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,000
but I was to write my opinion to the Kali's magazine,

703
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000
which I did, I have this script here,

704
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,000
and I give my reasons for not liking the idea of the space platform,

705
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,000
and so on and so forth, and explain it in various angles,

706
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000
which is nothing but the truth in the center.

707
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
Well, they finally kept it for six months,

708
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,000
and the same back and I said that everything that's passed on the reference to space platform

709
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:23,000
is passed by this committee, von Braun and Wallelay and others,

710
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
or Riddell and others.

711
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Well, that's alright, but I told him in this script,

712
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000
why build a space platform?

713
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000
While we're building a space platform,

714
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000
Russia could be building a ship,

715
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,000
and as she's moving towards the moon,

716
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,000
she could drop a small egg on us, and where are we?

717
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000
Well, she's at the moon,

718
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,000
why not build a ship and go to the moon and get a real space platform?

719
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
That's what I really told him,

720
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000
because I explained it in different angles,

721
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,000
and so forth and so on,

722
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
because that was a little bit too much truth,

723
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000
and we couldn't build a space ship for a lot less money.

724
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000
We have the means,

725
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000
we even have a sphere,

726
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,000
could build a space ship without this excess power,

727
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,000
and I still make the moon without being sandpapered

728
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,000
to pieces, to a tissue paper,

729
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000
because it was 1950,

730
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,000
when Admiral Commander Edwards,

731
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000
or the US Navy, come up and ask me,

732
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,000
he said, George, would you go to work

733
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,000
and draw me a space ship that could travel through space?

734
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,000
I said yes, I can, I'm not a much of a drawer,

735
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000
but I could draw what I can,

736
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,000
and look at the rest of it,

737
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000
and what they've done with that, I don't know.

738
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,000
But anyway, I even constructed a space ship then,

739
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,000
what a spacing we do,

740
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,000
we have several skins on the ship,

741
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000
and each skin would be placed four inches,

742
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,000
for certain reasons, and you're air ducts and all that,

743
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000
ship and site could be maintained

744
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000
at a proper temperature,

745
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,000
and at the same time,

746
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,000
no, all the friction would be to the outside,

747
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000
because it'd be several skin,

748
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000
and the rest would be sandpapered down,

749
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,000
but the rest would be alright,

750
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000
it was different in the rocket system.

751
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,000
So, he took that, and I understand

752
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000
there was a test made on a model,

753
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,000
and as the test was made on that model,

754
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,000
I've been told from sources I shouldn't question,

755
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000
because I think they were true,

756
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000
knowing what the position was,

757
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,000
that it was finally tested at 10,000 Fahrenheit,

758
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,000
and they called it finally a bridge there,

759
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,000
that's how we call it, it was a fact.

760
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000
But they did extend it, they did tell me that on the model,

761
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,000
they extended it to the 6 inch,

762
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,000
a while instead of 4 inches, I had given them at first.

763
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
So I do know that the ship would be made,

764
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000
just like that, and going to the,

765
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,000
but without any harm, without losing any lives or nothing,

766
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,000
and make a successful trip, I do know that,

767
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,000
and it could be done,

768
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,000
and even then, even in an artificial form,

769
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,000
to duplicate what the spacecraft or the saucer are doing,

770
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,000
we can even do it now, in an artificial form,

771
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,000
because we can create not electrical power,

772
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,000
by a small apparatus in the ship,

773
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,000
since they carry a lot of weight anyway,

774
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,000
this wouldn't be even the weight that we carry today,

775
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,000
and could create a retelling force

776
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,000
from the skin of the ship, even now,

777
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,000
and go out in a ship that way.

778
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,000
So there's two ways we could really go, right now.

779
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
And so I told them, I said,

780
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
I don't believe in a space platform at far,

781
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000
when we have these opportunities

782
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,000
to go really to the moon directly,

783
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,000
and be on a real space platform.

784
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,000
You say, you've made contact since the one in your book,

785
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
since the one out there.

786
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Oh yeah, they sell it. That's what the second book is made up of.

787
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,000
I see.

788
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,000
I may sell it.

789
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,000
And that's, I might recall this again.

790
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,000
That's how, in other words, I've been watched pretty well,

791
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,000
I guess at least I think I am,

792
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,000
due to the fact that these missile men,

793
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,000
which are big boys, they're experts in their line,

794
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
have asked me the question that they did,

795
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000
how come that these space ships can go through

796
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000
in the atomic clouds, right after the explosion,

797
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
would I be ineffective?

798
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,000
How would I have known,

799
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,000
unless they knew I had been in the ship,

800
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000
and would have the opportunity to know how it's done?

801
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000
I asked them that question,

802
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,000
they didn't confirm it or deny it.

803
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,000
But they insisted that I knew,

804
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,000
which I finally told them, what really takes place.

805
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000
And that they could understand.

806
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000
They had a mathematician right there,

807
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,000
and mathematically they figured it out,

808
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,000
and it was correct, it should work.

809
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,000
And it was all done for a purpose of defense.

810
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000
So you see, they must have known,

811
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000
they must have watched things pretty close,

812
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,000
because they couldn't have not come up,

813
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
and be so blank, blank, you know,

814
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
saying that you should know.

815
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,000
How would I know,

816
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,000
unless I've been in the ship to see how it does work?

817
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Well, now one other thing here too,

818
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,000
of course I've heard quite a bit about,

819
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,000
around the country, about various things.

820
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Did you say, oh, one of the,

821
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,000
you had some of your photographs that you've taken,

822
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,000
that have been developed by machines?

823
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Well, we got it one of those books, the seventh century.

824
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
You mean, tested, biometric analysis?

825
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000
Tested biometric analysis.

826
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,000
By an arches court in England.

827
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000
No, this isn't what I was afraid to,

828
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
I mean, it may be, it may be, this may be,

829
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
it's the one and one, that's the only one.

830
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,000
Now, the Duke, the, not the,

831
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,000
Oxford University asked for pictures too,

832
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000
they've got a machine like that too.

833
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,000
First, we were told that they'd won $100 for a picture,

834
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,000
for an analysis of that type,

835
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000
and we didn't send them anything,

836
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000
because heck, I didn't want $100 of cinema for a picture of the hell.

837
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,000
So, there's, an arches court, we lived someplace,

838
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000
they did the job, without cost,

839
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
they want a road for themselves.

840
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Well, then after they did it,

841
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000
then the Oxford writes me,

842
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,000
without cost, they do the same thing, I think.

843
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,000
But the machine's supposed to do something like this.

844
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,000
They take a picture that was not handled.

845
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000
What happened? You see this, how we know.

846
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
First, they wrote for a picture,

847
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,000
and we picked up the old picture down there,

848
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,000
that people have handled them.

849
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Cinemas.

850
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
Well, they put them in the machine,

851
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,000
and they told us, now it's quite a machine,

852
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,000
they told us, a lady at this and that age,

853
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,000
that height, and this color,

854
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,000
handled these pictures, a man of this and that.

855
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,000
See, we can't use them.

856
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,000
They knew exactly to the teeth.

857
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000
Cinema, that's what we did.

858
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000
And that's the analysis out of that, I see.

859
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,000
Yet, there's one there, a big one there,

860
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,000
which is the one that shows over the,

861
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,000
in the picture, over a, I haven't got it yet,

862
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
but where it's going over,

863
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,000
this is being over the mountain,

864
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,000
and just down the edge of it,

865
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,000
just like it was sitting there.

866
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,000
Well, that one there, they said,

867
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,000
it's just stone, wow.

868
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,000
It would raise just stone mineral in it,

869
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,000
because it's been so close in the combination

870
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000
of magnetic influence with land.

871
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,000
I see.

872
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,000
But they even give you in there, in a cramp,

873
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,000
did you see Cramp's book?

874
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,000
No.

875
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,000
Space, gravity, flying saucers,

876
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,000
everything that he's an engineer, very cool.

877
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
It shows you the different angles,

878
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,000
it gives you a lot to think about,

879
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000
on overcoming gravity.

880
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000
He's been subject to that too.

881
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,000
Well, they wonder what so far is the state.

882
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000
How many men was in the ship at the time

883
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,000
I talked to them?

884
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,000
What how tall they were, and everything,

885
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,000
right to the piece.

886
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,000
And this is the group that did it,

887
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,000
Archer's Court Research Group,

888
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000
and it's an Associated Society of Commedicization.

889
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,000
Yeah.

890
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,000
Archer's Court, Hastings, and they're the ones

891
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,000
that did that.

892
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,000
I see.

893
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,000
And then this in the back there's,

894
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,000
on those, the flying saucers?

895
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,000
No, everything they do.

896
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,000
He's an engineer, very good.

897
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,000
It shows you different angles,

898
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,000
it gives you a lot to think about,

899
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,000
on overcoming gravity.

900
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,000
Well, anyhow, he's been subject to that too.

901
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,000
Well, they wonder what so far is the state.

902
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,000
How many men was in the ship at the time

903
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,000
I talked to them?

904
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000
What how tall they were, and everything,

905
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
right to the piece.

906
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,000
And this is the group that did it,

907
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,000
Archer's Court Research Group,

908
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,000
and it's an Associated Society of Commedicization.

909
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Yeah.

910
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,000
Archer's Court, Hastings, and they're the ones

911
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,000
that did that.

912
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,000
I see.

913
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,000
And this in the back there's,

914
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,000
I know this book is going to be obtained

915
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000
through the Oak College Sciences Library Service,

916
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,000
the Philadelphia.

917
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Yeah, they got all that stuff in there.

918
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,000
But the University of Oxford,

919
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000
they were that's playing with it,

920
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,000
and now, and we're looking for it to their analysis.

921
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,000
See what, when you photograph a ship too close,

922
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,000
I photograph this one within 50 feet.

923
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000
And this is not my development,

924
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,000
or my photographs.

925
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,000
This picture was developed by the Phoenix Gazette,

926
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,000
and immediately when they brought it out,

927
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,000
they said this picture was close to an X-ray machine,

928
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,000
that's how magnetic it was, that was by range,

929
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,000
in fact, you can see the outline,

930
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
balls, all of that, the ball, then we know that,

931
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,000
but it's distorted that way.

932
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,000
What's on next out here?

933
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,000
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

934
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,000
We have already ourselves,

935
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,000
have command to put it with knowledge to ourselves.

936
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,000
Here's an article,

937
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Polyopatience,

938
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,000
Polyopatience job,

939
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Defeat gravity with a machine.

940
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,000
We already got a machine in medical science,

941
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000
that has already overcome gravity.

942
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000
And here's an article,

943
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,000
published in 1553.

944
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,000
There's quite a series of articles in

945
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,000
in aviation, thank you, in aviation week,

946
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,000
magazine, here about Glenn Hall.

947
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,000
152, something like that.

948
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,000
Somewhere along, what you call,

949
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,000
what you call a most out of this,

950
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,000
John Cartil, illustrator, see,

951
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,000
because there he shows what the ship looked like.

952
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,000
Here he drops the map,

953
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,000
this is where the landing took place.

954
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Gives you the exact map to follow up on,

955
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,000
and then he gives you some more here.

956
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,000
These are another landing, landing here,

957
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,000
landing there, landing, see these marks are all landings.

958
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,000
And the other marks, the green ones in the center,

959
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
are what have been visited, what have been seen.

960
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,000
So he's got three landings here in Argentina.

961
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,000
There was very little about him in this country.

962
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,000
Right, a lot of stuff he'd been made,

963
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,000
from all parts of the world.

964
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000
That is, that's very interesting.

965
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,000
I should hope I put this thing on there,

966
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,000
I might be checking this.

967
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Well, I realize that this is a big thing.

968
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,000
I never even, even while I was working in the Air Force,

969
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,000
I never realized what a big, big thing this was

970
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,000
in the interest of it, it just never felt so amazing.

971
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
The entrance will never fall anymore.

972
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,000
Tell you why, supposedly the flying saucer

973
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,000
vanished out of the sky completely.

974
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:36,000
The mines of men were all over, skeptics and believers alike

975
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,000
have been risen from ground to the sky.

976
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,000
They'll be looking to the sky for their next venture.

977
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,000
Well, I know that, I'd say it's just been amazing.

978
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,000
I've had people call me, I think an interesting little thing

979
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,000
that I ran into here recently on this thing,

980
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,000
was this business of an odor,

981
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,000
a real sharp-punging odor, in actually the case.

982
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,000
Well, and look, it's not such a mystery.

983
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,000
When you look at this way, of course, this is what happens.

984
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,000
You've heard in an Air Force, you've got those reports,

985
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,000
where sometimes there'd be something fall toward

986
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,000
and you find them in a jelly bomb.

987
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,000
All compositions made up in some way or another,

988
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,000
they have certain amount of sulfur in them.

989
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,000
On earth here, where they make up butycrop and things like that,

990
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,000
certain amount of sulfur.

991
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:31,000
In any case, this was always said that there was sulfur-like odor

992
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,000
and ozone-like odor.

993
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,000
These instruments that they send out from the ships,

994
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,000
that's for testing, just like we send out weather balloons,

995
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,000
except these are remote control.

996
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,000
They're anything from 20 inches to 12 feet in diameter,

997
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,000
not pilot, those fellows are not.

998
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,000
They send them out and they register everything in the machines

999
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,000
and also relay them to the mothership from which they send out.

1000
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,000
They lose control of them and they blow them up in the sky.

1001
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,000
That's where you hear an explosion once in a while.

1002
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,000
They don't want them to come to the ground and pass to me.

1003
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,000
And sometimes they catch them a little late.

1004
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,000
So then they come down already in disintegrating form,

1005
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,000
from solace to liquids, which is your jelly state.

1006
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,000
And by the time they have a chance to become the darn jelly, that's gone.

1007
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,000
See, and all you have is an odor.

1008
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,000
That's a composition of the thing that gives off that odor.

1009
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,000
Where if the ship was to come to here right now,

1010
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,000
you could smell the ozone odor, which is electrical,

1011
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,000
for days there after.

1012
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,000
We had one come off the coast down here,

1013
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,000
thought it was going to wreck my telescope.

1014
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:34,000
And you could smell it for days from here, very heavy ozone.

1015
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,000
That's where those different odors come from.

1016
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,000
I think this up, when I went down and talked to Scott,

1017
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,000
Master of Florida, we got burned down.

1018
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,000
You know why you got burned?

1019
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,000
I learned that. You can correct that in your but now if you want to.

1020
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,000
Which makes really sense.

1021
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,000
Really makes sense.

1022
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,000
He was either frightened or belligerent.

1023
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,000
When the ship was just over his head,

1024
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,000
he took the moushadi and struck at the metal.

1025
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,000
And each time, a piece of the blade broke out,

1026
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,000
which was his lock.

1027
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,000
Had it stuck in there.

1028
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,000
He would have completed the ground,

1029
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,000
completed the circuit of electrical machine to the ground,

1030
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,000
and it had been killed.

1031
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,000
So in order to save his own life,

1032
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,000
they shot that ray out of the air and get away from there.

1033
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,000
Whereas, old say, that's what happened.

1034
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,000
Because you can see electrically.

1035
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,000
You can get a hold of a hot wire here,

1036
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,000
if you're not grounded, right?

1037
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,000
And they can hold it.

1038
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,000
But brother, when you go to work,

1039
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,000
you can get a hold of it and complete the circuit. You're true.

1040
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,000
And that's what would have happened there.

1041
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,000
He's like turned on light and you stand in the bathroom.

1042
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,000
That's right.

1043
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,000
So you see, that was the reason that was down.

1044
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,000
And that from them, that was the reason.

1045
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,000
I said, why did you shoot this,

1046
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,000
it wasn't the same men, but I said,

1047
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,000
why do they shoot the ray at a person like that?

1048
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,000
He says, well, if they had not,

1049
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,000
the man would have been dead.

1050
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,000
They just frightened them enough away from there

1051
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,000
to save his own life.

1052
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,000
That's what happened there.

1053
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,000
And when you analyze it yourself,

1054
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,000
then you have to do some work yourself.

1055
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,000
We analyze yourself on the laws that we know.

1056
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,000
Well, I say, you don't think you could do so,

1057
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,000
save them because the machine is electrical.

1058
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,000
Let us stay in there. You have completed the circuit.

1059
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,000
Well, this is an interesting question here.

1060
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,000
Since you've written your book,

1061
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,000
what is your mail run?

1062
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,000
I mean, you can get quite a bit of questions.

1063
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,000
Oh, God.

1064
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,000
We're two times the letters behind,

1065
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,000
and we have three scenarios to answer them.

1066
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,000
For God's sake.

1067
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,000
From all over the world.

1068
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,000
I answer all of them because a lot of them

1069
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,000
are very, very scientific questions.

1070
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,000
And I'd like to get more on some of them.

1071
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,000
I get mail from all types of scientists

1072
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,000
and everything else.

1073
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,000
So, really, I'm telling you.

1074
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,000
It's killing because it's costimists

1075
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,000
on 100 to $150 a month

1076
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,000
for stamps and paper.

1077
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,000
No, we don't.

1078
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,000
We can't answer all of them.

1079
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,000
We even got a form letter

1080
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,000
that we sent out to kind of

1081
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,000
satisfy some of them.

1082
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,000
Still does more coming in.

1083
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,000
How many different languages is your book commodity now?

1084
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,000
It's now in about

1085
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,000
eight or twelve.

1086
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,000
I think it's about twelve now.

1087
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,000
And it's still a contract for eight more.

1088
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,000
I see.

1089
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,000
That hasn't been published.

1090
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,000
But there's not a spot in the world

1091
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,000
that something hasn't been said about it.

1092
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,000
You need a pro-acquan now.

1093
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,000
I'd just like you to be hearing this.

1094
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,000
So I'll give you the straight out.

1095
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,000
I went to Mexico.

1096
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,000
I went on a visit there just for a rest.

1097
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,000
And I'd never been there, so I thought I'd enjoy

1098
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,000
going to different places to see some wonderful things.

1099
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,000
They had a lot of wonderful things there.

1100
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Well, the first thing that happened was

1101
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,000
there's also a club down there that's been established

1102
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,000
by pretty wealthy people.

1103
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,000
Well, they said, would you give us

1104
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,000
a conference, which is a lecture?

1105
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,000
I helped us out a little bit.

1106
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,000
I said, well, I'd be all right. I came here for

1107
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,000
vacation, not to work.

1108
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,000
And I said, I haven't even got that kind of permit.

1109
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,000
I knew that you had to have a permit for it.

1110
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,000
They said, we'll tend to that.

1111
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,000
Citizens of Mexico.

1112
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
So I said, okay, you see that

1113
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,000
might permit everything for the lecture job

1114
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,000
here? What the exact?

1115
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,000
I said, you people are going to charge, aren't you?

1116
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,000
Yes, we're going to charge to kind of get our club

1117
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,000
a go. By peso, that's 40 cents.

1118
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,000
I said, okay, when you get everything ready

1119
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,000
and everything is okay, well, I'll give you a talk.

1120
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,000
So I did.

1121
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,000
First thing, the papers, there's a funny

1122
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,000
setup in Mexico that way.

1123
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,000
When a reporter comes to see, or

1124
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,000
what he calls press conference,

1125
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,000
you can give him all the drinks you want.

1126
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,000
He can get a cockey drunk and eats and everything

1127
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,000
else. He still wants 25 or 30

1128
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,000
pesos on the side.

1129
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,000
There's 70 of those reporters.

1130
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,000
Well, that didn't happen.

1131
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,000
So they were men in the first place.

1132
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,000
So finally, the next day, which is on

1133
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,000
a Tuesday, a winter worker says

1134
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,000
that our lecture's without permit.

1135
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,000
So then the paper down here, or the papers

1136
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,000
were in the, against me there,

1137
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,000
and the way they blasted it,

1138
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,000
the whole thing, they said, I come to promote

1139
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,000
my book, and I want to get a penny from that

1140
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,000
book every time it sells.

1141
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,000
Up there, the way the thing was written up

1142
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,000
and the contracts were made.

1143
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,000
So they don't want to promote that book.

1144
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,000
So anyhow, that's what they said,

1145
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,000
which was not true,

1146
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,000
but they took that out as a kind of revenge.

1147
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,000
But in spite of that,

1148
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,000
the guy sold out all the books you couldn't buy

1149
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,000
another one.

1150
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,000
In spite of that, they were

1151
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,000
pausing it, and in the meantime,

1152
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,000
they were saying, well, they bought it,

1153
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,000
and he sold out all the books you couldn't buy

1154
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,000
another one, and they had to say, go neck,

1155
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,000
they got a new edition.

1156
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,000
So I showed them my papers and everything else,

1157
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,000
and everything was all right,

1158
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,000
and the American Council was

1159
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,000
informed about it, and

1160
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,000
they said, okay, so you're innocent,

1161
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,000
and you're just

1162
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,000
an innocent victim

1163
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,000
due to the ignorance of our citizens.

1164
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,000
They thought they had everything clear, they didn't.

1165
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,000
So they called in.

1166
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,000
But they did say in the paper

1167
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,000
that I paid 500 pesos,

1168
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,000
fine, which is $40,

1169
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,000
which I didn't.

1170
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,000
And they said, well, I'll take you on those papers

1171
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,000
and we'll run, which I didn't.

1172
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,000
There's nobody else that did.

1173
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,000
Even those people that did make a mistake

1174
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,000
because that part didn't pay.

1175
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,000
On the following day, I was deported.

1176
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,000
The next day, I was arrested

1177
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,000
in jail.

1178
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,000
Well, I was at a

1179
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,000
Marriott Cristana hotel all the time,

1180
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,000
and you should have seen the fun around there,

1181
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,000
the fellow hops and everything.

1182
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,000
I was like, you did this, nice jail, you're ready.

1183
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,000
Oh, that kind of stuff, you can't even hang on tables.

1184
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,000
The hardest one,

1185
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,000
three reporters had left me at the airport

1186
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,000
and talked to me

1187
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,000
as I was leaving for Los Angeles

1188
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,000
by now eating a dinner.

1189
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,000
That was salient.

1190
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,000
Here, I deliver a lecture

1191
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,000
to all the government

1192
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,000
big boys there

1193
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,000
on a Tuesday in a cocktail party with it.

1194
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,000
And then left Wednesday.

1195
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,000
They had me put a set down

1196
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,000
in Los Angeles eating a dinner.

1197
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,000
So that's how far you can go

1198
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,000
if you're a lot of the days.

1199
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,000
Gai-shell Fisher, you'll never see anything like it.

1200
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,000
But anyway,

1201
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,000
when the government conference took place,

1202
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,000
they had this health figure

1203
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,000
which isn't the government.

1204
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,000
It was probably shouldn't be for the government.

1205
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,000
The government calls them in all of us, you see.

1206
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,000
They're the only people that works with the government.

1207
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,000
They were in that

1208
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,000
and here we are.

1209
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,000
I'm sitting among all these big boys

1210
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,000
and all of that in the center

1211
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,000
and the oldest

1212
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,000
technical organization in the world

1213
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,000
in all of that.

1214
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,000
The pictures were taken about me and the whole works here.

1215
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,000
All of that in us being a paper this Sunday

1216
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,000
as it comes out weekly.

1217
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,000
This Sunday or next Sunday, if they even get it ready

1218
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,000
by this Sunday, then we'll be out next week.

1219
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,000
You're going to send me some.

1220
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,000
I'm wondering now, because that was a scoop for people.

1221
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,000
What they call a scoop in this country.

1222
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,000
We've been scooped for them anywhere there too.

1223
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,000
But you see, because they misbehaved the government.

1224
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,000
They ignored them completely.

1225
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,000
When this little paper comes out with that stuff,

1226
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,000
the hollow is going to be there.

1227
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,000
And this is going to stick there next time.

1228
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,000
So I'm funny.

1229
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,000
Oh, there are...

1230
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,000
I know newspapers are

1231
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,000
odd and foreign newspapers are

1232
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,000
worse, I think.

1233
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,000
Oh, well.

1234
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,000
I asked some of the newspaper out to us,

1235
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,000
what sort of a journalist school do you go to?

1236
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,000
Well, a journalist school.

1237
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,000
You learn all about journalism.

1238
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,000
I said, it must be pretty dog-gone bad,

1239
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,000
because you've been sensible before.

1240
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,000
You at least adhere to points.

1241
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,000
But now you don't.

1242
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,000
You misconstrued everything.

1243
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,000
You never give the things straight anymore.

1244
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,000
Oh, God.

1245
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,000
I asked some reporters down in San Francisco.

1246
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,000
Down there.

1247
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,000
And, by the way, this gentleman,

1248
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,000
you might know of.

1249
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,000
Everybody was shaking on their boots,

1250
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,000
thinking that he might come up there

1251
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,000
and shut the lecture up

1252
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,000
of the U.S.

1253
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,000
Ordnance Department.

1254
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,000
And he says to me, he says,

1255
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
Joe, don't worry.

1256
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,000
He says, we can support you in the point of blank outside,

1257
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,000
but he says, I'll tell you what,

1258
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,000
the Air Force and the Army is behind you.

1259
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,000
This fellow here may be in law.

1260
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,000
No.

1261
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,000
No, I don't believe I know him.

1262
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,000
No, I know him.

1263
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,000
Yeah, no, I know the San Francisco Ordnance District.

1264
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,000
I don't have none of them.

1265
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,000
Well, this is the man that can't.

1266
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,000
And he's very nice.

1267
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,000
But anyhow, I said to the repotter,

1268
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,000
I said, no, look,

1269
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,000
who you working for? Russia or the United States?

1270
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,000
As all the publicity you have given to Russia,

1271
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,000
if she had to buy that dark publicity here,

1272
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,000
she would have been broke long ago.

1273
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,000
Yeah, that's very true.

1274
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,000
I says, and I says, your father,

1275
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,000
your father, the technique too.

1276
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,000
And he says, well, no, we don't.

1277
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,000
I said, the heck you don't.

1278
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,000
I says, you played that Russia,

1279
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,000
if you want to put a finger on a man,

1280
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,000
you can criticize him a lot.

1281
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,000
By the time he gets to the court, he's already condemned.

1282
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,000
The court can't do anything else but convict him.

1283
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,000
You do the same thing.

1284
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,000
You never should show the outside.

1285
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,000
What are you talking about?

1286
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,000
I said, who are you working for?

1287
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,000
I got a little rookie.

1288
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,000
Well, but that's the situation.

1289
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,000
Where you going?

1290
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,000
You know, and I got a new Russia,

1291
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,000
some of the men that I met in Mexico.

1292
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,000
Did she go with you down there?

1293
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,000
It's really nice.

1294
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,000
The weather is marvelous.

1295
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,000
Of course, they're expecting green season now

1296
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,000
in the next three months.

1297
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,000
But it was beautiful.

1298
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,000
At night, you sleep with just one sheet.

1299
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,000
Beautiful, very even planning.

1300
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,000
I've been there before, but I really like it.

1301
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,000
Here's the gentlemen, some of them,

1302
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,000
I hear that you can read who they were,

1303
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,000
and here I've got some private cards.

1304
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,000
And I even got a pass to go.

1305
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,000
In the place I went in Mexico,

1306
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,000
the government, Arsenal's editing.

1307
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,000
Director of Federal Intellectuality,

1308
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,000
my Spanish is absolutely good.

1309
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,000
That's Navy and Army, and astronomy.

1310
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,000
Yeah.

1311
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,000
Air Force.

1312
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,000
Very interesting.

1313
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,000
Here's some of the cards.

1314
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,000
That's the fellow that was a translator for me

1315
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,000
that you saw in the picture.

1316
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,000
The Federal man.

1317
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,000
And this is the pass, this fellow next to the president.

1318
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,000
That's his pass, see.

1319
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,000
I can take that card any place in Mexico,

1320
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,000
go to any Federal building or any place.

1321
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,000
They really treat you nice, don't you?

1322
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,000
They all have a Federal stamp on their ass.

1323
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,000
And even the private addresses, again, Army.

1324
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,000
No, I've met around a lot of nice people in this,

1325
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,000
this fellow is a man.

1326
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,000
That's a general decision in English.

1327
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,000
Yeah.

1328
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,000
The other people that are responsible for the lecture

1329
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,000
that the rest of you was with, I see.

1330
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,000
They should have known better people in that position.

1331
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,000
But it really is a rather lot of things

1332
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,000
that I wouldn't have learned otherwise

1333
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,000
had it not been a mistaken idea.

1334
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,000
I've really learned wonderful things there.

1335
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,000
I've learned a lot of things there.

1336
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,000
I've really learned wonderful things there.

1337
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,000
Well, Jim, when Jim went to South America,

1338
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,000
where was it?

1339
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,000
Some place you lost your shot record,

1340
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,000
and they had to give you shots all over again before they let him into...

1341
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,000
Oh, yeah, that was in Panama.

1342
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,000
They had to take all these smallpox shots

1343
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,000
over again a week after you'd taken him.

1344
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,000
Well, you've got a defectionary going to Mexico.

1345
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,000
Going into my bed

1346
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,000
is coming back.

1347
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Yeah, you've got a defectionary.

1348
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,000
No, I've never been to Mexico.

1349
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,000
Of course, I've been across the border.

1350
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,000
I'm telling you, you'll be amazed more than anything.

1351
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,000
It is just a bad look.

1352
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,000
I was there 14 days.

1353
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,000
It cost $129.

1354
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,000
Of course, the girls picked me up at the airport

1355
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,000
this time coming in.

1356
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,000
Otherwise, it would have been $3.

1357
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,000
It would have been $132.

1358
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,000
That's a bus trip from Hotel Grand

1359
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,000
to the airport, to O'ahuagas,

1360
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,000
and back again, and the transportation

1361
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,000
on D.C. 6.

1362
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,000
That's the best way to go around.

1363
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,000
It's a nice trip.

1364
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,000
It's a five and a half hours.

1365
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,000
I left here at four o'clock in the afternoon,

1366
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,000
so naturally, we went over partly.

1367
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,000
Daylight set up, and then

1368
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,000
the dock.

1369
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,000
They serve you chicken dinner on the ship.

1370
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,000
All the cocktails of any type you want.

1371
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,000
Beer and anything.

1372
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,000
Champagne and anything.

1373
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,000
You serve you right on through.

1374
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,000
Coming back, of course, I left there in the morning,

1375
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,000
and arrived at 12 down here.

1376
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,000
There's two hours difference.

1377
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,000
It's $100, let us say, $32.

1378
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,000
And the hotel room

1379
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,000
for all that time of 14 days

1380
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,000
was 600 pesos.

1381
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,000
Which is just a little over

1382
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,000
around $50

1383
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,000
for 14 days.

1384
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,000
Well, for two weeks.

1385
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,000
And you eat, but you can buy the best kind of dinner,

1386
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,000
four or five cost dinner, for $1.40.

1387
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
I got a haircut there

1388
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,000
for 8 cents.

1389
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,000
Three one piece.

1390
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,000
That's 8 cents.

1391
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,000
I have my suit cleaned and dressed

1392
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,000
and really wonderful job.

1393
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,000
Better than you get through here with 8 cents.

1394
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,000
One piece.

1395
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,000
Thing like that, you see.

1396
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,000
You can live there. You can take a couple of hundred dollars

1397
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,000
going there, live a month

1398
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,000
very nicely and enjoy yourself.

1399
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,000
See a lot of things.

1400
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,000
What is the most amazing of there

1401
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,000
is the beautiful buildings.

1402
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,000
Magnificent buildings.

1403
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,000
Glass. There's one building down there.

1404
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,000
There's the greatest glass building

1405
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,000
in the world. The only one of its kind.

1406
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,000
All the glass would be there.

1407
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,000
And yet all the buildings

1408
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,000
are filled on pillows.

1409
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Most of the new buildings. All modern.

1410
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,000
No two alive.

1411
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,000
And the pillows are that concrete pillows.

1412
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,000
They're that big around.

1413
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,000
Underneath, 10 to 12,

1414
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,000
up to 20 feet off the ground.

1415
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,000
And still they don't utilize them

1416
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,000
underneath.

1417
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,000
Engineering is pretty something.

1418
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,000
They don't utilize them.

1419
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,000
Maybe they have it for a garage or parking cars.

1420
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,000
But most of them are long or something like that.

1421
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Nice park around and so forth.

1422
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,000
And empty underneath.

1423
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,000
And here's these big pillows for these buildings.

1424
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,000
And they're 14 things.

1425
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,000
20 story buildings.

1426
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,000
Amazing.

1427
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,000
I could never figure out why they do that.

1428
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,000
Maybe a party did say

1429
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,000
to me that the reason they do it

1430
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,000
they got a ball-like

1431
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,000
socket in the ground.

1432
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,000
Plank deep in the ground.

1433
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,000
And they allowed the building to go so far.

1434
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,000
And the socket catches in those bags.

1435
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,000
Then maybe it.

1436
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,000
But so many of them like that.

1437
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,000
All the new ones.

1438
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,000
Beautiful setup.

1439
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,000
Did you get to travel out and see the various sites around?

1440
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,000
Oh yeah.

1441
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,000
I went to a place. I had some postcards here.

1442
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,000
This is what they call a floating god.

1443
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,000
This is the postcards here.

1444
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,000
This is the postcards here.

1445
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,000
It's wedded like that.

1446
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,000
See?

1447
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,000
I see.

1448
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,000
Here's a bridge like that over.

1449
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,000
And all of that.

1450
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,000
To those places.

1451
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,000
You'd be riding in one of these.

1452
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,000
See, let's see. We can see a small one here.

1453
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,000
There's a small one there.

1454
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,000
Right now along these maybe we could get a better one here.

1455
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,000
Maybe for one person there.

1456
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,000
I think this one here. See there's a small one.

1457
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,000
One of them will come along.

1458
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,000
You know about this narrow.

1459
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,000
Had about as long as from here to that wall.

1460
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,000
And a woman would be kneeling down on her hunches there.

1461
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,000
And she would be selling flowers.

1462
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,000
Come right along inside the bigger ones. Depending flowers.

1463
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,000
Or a big one would come along with a whole band.

1464
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,000
To play and to play.

1465
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,000
Or any kind of work that you want.

1466
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,000
Next you'll come along.

1467
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,000
Well, jewelry or pocket books.

1468
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,000
And try to sell it to you.

1469
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,000
Just come right along there.

1470
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,000
And then the next one would come along.

1471
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,000
Just a little pack like this.

1472
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,000
Of a plate on it.

1473
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,000
And a charcoal burning underneath.

1474
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,000
Right in the boat.

1475
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,000
And that high.

1476
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,000
And issues kneeling down here.

1477
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,000
You can get a handbook of steak.

1478
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,000
Anything you want right there.

1479
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,000
Inside the boat.

1480
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,000
And this in here. This part here.

1481
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,000
See there's a part of rest.

1482
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,000
Right down below here.

1483
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,000
Right down where this light is.

1484
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,000
That's going way down.

1485
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,000
This is the upper floor.

1486
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,000
You come in from the top here.

1487
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,000
And then there's another big section.

1488
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,000
Like there's a lot of tables.

1489
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,000
And the soaps are out of this world.

1490
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,000
I'm not kidding you.

1491
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,000
And then if you go down around here.

1492
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,000
There's steps going down there.

1493
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,000
There's about 20 feet lower than this.

1494
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,000
And there's a big opening there.

1495
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,000
It's a regular volcanic cave.

1496
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,000
But it is. It is all volcanic.

1497
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,000
And it's all open to the side.

1498
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,000
You're never closed up.

1499
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,000
And I guess when it rains.

1500
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,000
They just don't operate. That's all.

1501
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,000
And all the kitchens are those little smaller caves.

1502
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,000
And so forth.

1503
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,000
And they're all like dancers.

1504
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,000
They come out and dance on a platform.

1505
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,000
Get to the music.

1506
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,000
And the light is shining right on them.

1507
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,000
It really makes it a very odd setup.

1508
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,000
Very beautiful.

1509
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,000
That's near the pyramids.

1510
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,000
Those big pyramids.

1511
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,000
You go out to see the pyramids.

1512
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,000
And then the next thing you go down to the restaurant.

1513
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,000
Little ways from the pyramids is this restaurant.

1514
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,000
And then the university.

1515
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,000
What do they call it?

1516
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,000
University city.

1517
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,000
And beautiful pictures.

1518
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,000
All this type of mosaic work.

1519
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,000
On the buildings, library and all of that.

1520
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,000
Oh, it's beautiful.

1521
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,000
The stadium is the largest in the world.

1522
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,000
That's where they had all the doings.

1523
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,000
The Pan-American track.

1524
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,000
Oh, yeah.

1525
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,000
That's where they had it.

1526
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,000
Yeah, all in there one day.

1527
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,000
And it's the biggest stadium in the world.

1528
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,000
Beautiful.

1529
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,000
Most of that stuff is built of lava rock.

1530
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,000
It's all lava rock.

1531
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,000
So they really got the goods of the earth.

1532
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,000
And they're really building up.

1533
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,000
Very modern.

1534
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,000
And very artistic.

1535
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,000
They built so much art with it.

1536
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,000
Art seems to be the predominant

1537
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,000
in the buildings and all of that.

1538
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,000
Really beautiful.

1539
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,000
The people are very afraid as far as talking.

1540
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,000
They're kind of suspicious in their way.

1541
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,000
Because in Indian is the character that we're even through here.

1542
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,000
He won't talk to the Linos.

1543
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,000
Then when he opens up, he really talks to you.

1544
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,000
He's your best friend.

1545
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,000
He's been in the East for a couple years.

1546
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,000
Yeah, well, it's about the same way you will find up there.

1547
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,000
You get to go out in the outskirts there.

1548
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,000
Now the government can't do nothing with those people at all.

1549
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,000
There are a bunch of Indians

1550
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,000
that are satisfied with one or all beans

1551
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,000
and one or all corn and one or all this

1552
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,000
for themselves and that's all.

1553
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000
And you look up on them, there's an awfully poor class of people.

1554
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,000
But they just don't want to be helped.

1555
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,000
Yeah, I understand.

1556
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,000
The government would help with that.

1557
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,000
We'd like to develop because

1558
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,000
Mexico is very low in its agriculture.

1559
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,000
We'd like to develop there because

1560
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,000
they're striving for that.

1561
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,000
But the people won't do it.

1562
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,000
There's 33 million people in there,

1563
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,000
only about 7 million people that they're doing anything.

1564
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,000
The rest of them are laying around doing nothing.

1565
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,000
They just want to work.

1566
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,000
But it's really what going in.

1567
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,000
I'm telling you, the Mexico City is really beautiful.

1568
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,000
Plus the other Acapulco now through there

1569
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,000
is still more beautiful, but there are more

1570
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,000
and less our actual resort.

1571
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,000
And you see those dog-gone walls.

1572
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,000
Walls, 14, 15, 20 feet high.

1573
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,000
Whole blocks in case they're...

1574
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,000
And some of them look kind of ugly.

1575
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,000
The guy you get behind those walls.

1576
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,000
Beautiful homes and vegetation

1577
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,000
that are on their mansion.

1578
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,000
Well, I suppose we have everybody...

1579
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,000
Most everybody talks English.

1580
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,000
Yeah, he's trouble at all.

1581
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,000
No trouble at all.

1582
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,000
I don't understand a word in Spanish.

1583
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,000
I can't say a word in Spanish.

1584
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,000
They've got a long time.

1585
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,000
Only places in the lecture and then I had a translator.

1586
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,000
But otherwise, the guy shouldn't go any place.

1587
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,000
Now, in the drugstore up there,

1588
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,000
there was a chairman crying.

1589
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,000
Old, very clean, slick up the date.

1590
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,000
Drugstore, I wanted some shaving cream.

1591
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,000
In some razor blades, I would run out of RA.

1592
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,000
I went in there and asked for it in the talking dish.

1593
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,000
Only one place I went in there and tried to get soap.

1594
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,000
And in that civic department store,

1595
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,000
and the girls behind it,

1596
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,000
said, no one I want.

1597
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,000
So I pointed out, and just saw a luxe,

1598
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,000
so far, so good.

1599
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,000
But you just got a water money.

1600
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,000
You used the money.

1601
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,000
You just got a water money.

1602
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,000
You tip five pesos.

1603
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,000
It's five dollars to them.

1604
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,000
But to you, it's only forty cents.

1605
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,000
Makes you feel like a big spin.

1606
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,000
It does, no kidding.

1607
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,000
Because you have so little on yourself,

1608
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,000
you know that, you're limited to.

1609
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,000
Yet here you get so dog-gone much,

1610
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,000
for every ten dollars that you cash in

1611
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,000
of American money,

1612
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,000
you got a hundred and twenty-four pesos.

1613
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,000
You don't mind, you realize if there's a nice job for you,

1614
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,000
and when you're necessarily getting five,

1615
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,000
ten bucks,

1616
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,000
their money,

1617
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,000
it's only forty or eighty cents.

1618
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,000
And it's nothing for us to drop a dollar

1619
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,000
for a tip here,

1620
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,000
so if you drop a dollar there,

1621
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,000
it's really twelve dollars to them.

1622
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,000
It gives you

1623
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,000
a sort of a

1624
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,000
a satisfactory feeling,

1625
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,000
because they do appreciate their own

1626
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,000
pay-posts.

1627
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,000
And to you, of course, it doesn't mean much.

1628
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,000
You're really not

1629
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,000
going out and being a big shot,

1630
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,000
you're more or less normal.

1631
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,000
In the meantime, they think you're doing

1632
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,000
a lot of favor because they can fill it.

1633
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,000
Well, you go for all day,

1634
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,000
and a taxi, a private taxi, that takes you out.

1635
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,000
There's a thousand taxis

1636
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,000
of Mexico City or more,

1637
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,000
and they all own privately by individuals.

1638
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,000
You spend a whole day, they take you out

1639
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,000
in the morning by nine o'clock,

1640
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,000
by five, thirty, and six, they bring you back.

1641
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,000
Thirty pesos.

1642
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,000
Well, I spent a year over in India during the war,

1643
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,000
we all had our own private valets

1644
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,000
over there, our own inservants, you know.

1645
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,000
And that was your plane too. We paid them

1646
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,000
twelve dollars a month, that's all, we paid them.

1647
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,000
And I had this kid, and they actually lived

1648
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,000
right outside your door. They slept

1649
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,000
on the ground, right outside your door.

1650
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,000
And I got swell with them, my wife was

1651
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,000
kidding me about it, she'll say, well, you think you're still in India,

1652
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,000
you know, because they just

1653
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,000
waved on your hand and foot.

1654
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,000
They do that same thing here.

1655
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,000
There's a couple coming, there were two little kids,

1656
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,000
they wanted to tie them themselves.

1657
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,000
And they saw, they got this girl,

1658
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,000
a Mexican girl, to take care of the kids.

1659
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,000
So they give us so much money, you know.

1660
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,000
So much pain, so many pesos.

1661
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,000
She right away took the taxi with the kids,

1662
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,000
took kids out to a park,

1663
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,000
now that they were free.

1664
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,000
And all the pain in the neighborhood

1665
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,000
five dollars a week. That's right.

1666
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,000
That's five pesos, you know. That means

1667
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,000
forty cents, you know.

1668
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,000
Really, you can say, down there,

1669
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,000
I wanted to go to Guadalupe

1670
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,000
but I was so darn busy with all of this

1671
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,000
I was going to go and I couldn't get nowhere.

1672
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,000
I thought I was going to go back, though.

1673
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,000
And that's where all the army

1674
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,000
and Navy officers were, the United States

1675
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,000
are settled. You know, on pensions,

1676
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,000
you get a pension, one hundred and fifty

1677
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,000
two hundred dollars a month, the way these things are here,

1678
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,000
you eat it up before you know it and you're in there.

1679
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,000
There, you just figure that, twelve times that.

1680
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,000
Yeah. Well, they live like kings,

1681
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,000
they got help and everything else, and they live

1682
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,000
like a king. Yeah. There are a lot of them,

1683
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,000
they say, in Guadalajara

1684
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,000
and all kinds of Americans,

1685
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,000
they're the American settlers.

1686
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,000
Well, Ruth, I think we better go.